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:new: March 2012  Mini Shows - CP points reduced


Due to their usually lower quality and the masses of doodle-like headshots.  If they weren't mini show entries, they would only count 0.5 CP mostly and that is unfair to those who put time and effort into normal events and do training pictures. We therefore decided to change the CP that is given for Mini Show Entries and make it depending to the type of entry. High Quality Entries (Quality like a usual show entry) for Mini Shows can be accepted (see exeptional entries)


Mini Shows count for
headshot drawing for mini show: 0,5 CP + 0,5 CP for placing 1st, 2nd or 3rd.
full body drawing (sketchy, no background, lineart) 1 CP + 0,5 CP for placing 1st, 2nd or 3rd.
exeptional entries (full body, full shading, background): 1,5 CP + 0,5 CP




2011 May: Following Changes:

We want to encourage people to do training exchanges with other stables (stable interaction yay!) So there's a new chance for horses receiving CP:
Training pictures drawn by other peolpe count 0,5 CP each.
The following pictures count as a "training picture":
- full body (= at least 1/2 of the horse is visible) colored pictures of the horse with rider in show jumping, dressage or cross country movements
- full body (= at least 1/2 of the horse is visible) colored pictures of the horse with trainer/handler shown in training situations (trailer training, lunging, groundwork...)
The following pictures don't count:
Head shots
Gift art and competition prizes
Linearts

Please be aware that we will watch closely if there are cases of "training commission abuse" - it's alright if you commission other people for a training picture, but if a horses' CP are mainly gained through training pics drawn by others, we'll put a stop to that.
Our intention is to encourage you to draw (and interact with other stables), not to "buy" a Finest Blood status by commissioning others for dA points.



2011 January: Following Changes:
- foal CP are limited and bound to competition success of the horse
- EX Racing Thoroughbreds need training and competition pictures to get a Finest Blood
- CP border was raised to 11 CP!!!
- Headshots count is cut to 0,5 CP


NOTE that it is NOT allowed to upload a Finest Blood Ref BEFORE your horse has the 11 CP. Not with 9, not with 10,5. THe border is 11 CP

PREMIUM and FINEST BLOOD


ALL warmblood horses and thoroughbreds (suitable for refining the breed) that match the three main requirements of the HEWA can be registered as "Premium"-horses.

The three main requirements for a "Premium" Warmblood

1. Has to be a pure warmblood! All ancestors of your horse have to be warmbloods.
No ponies, drafts, gaited horses etc. in your horses pedigree. Link to list of registered HEWA-Breeds: h-e-w-a.deviantart.com/blog/29…

2. NATURAL coat colours. Only coat colours have to be suitable for the REAL LIFE breed. Link to list of coat colors: h-e-w-a.deviantart.com/blog/29…

3. Age: 3! Your horse cannot be in the registry before it reaches an age of 3 years.

to sum it up again:
Your horse will be registered by the HEWA as a Premium Warmblood or a TB (for refining the breeds) if it meets the following criteria:
Age at least 3 years, natural coat colours within the standards of its REAL LIFE breed, a pure warmblood pedigree.



The creme de la Creme of these horses make it into the  "Finest Blood" registry.

The requirements for a "Finest Blood" Warmblood are:

1. All requirements for a "Premium Warmblood" fulfilled

2. A refurbished H-E-W-A reference sheet. (We will provide examples and a template for it) !!! You need to draw an NEW picture of your horse. It is NOT allowed to use an existing picture!!

3. At least 11 credit points

to sum it up again:
Your horse will be registered by the HEWA as a "Finest Blood" Warmblood or a TB (for refining the breeds) if it meets the following criteria:
Age at least 3 years; natural coat colours within the standards of its REAL LIFE breed; a pure warmblood pedigree.
+ a HEWA reference sheet; at least 9 credit points







The credit Point System</b>

We thought a lot about the whole thing and we believe we established a very good credit point system for the horses, that is not influenced by the artists ability or popularity, but still ensures a high level of quality.

The credit Point System

Your horse gets credit points for certain aspects. To make it to the "Finest Blood Registry" it has to reach at least 11 credit points.


I. Credit Points for Pedigree:
(thought to promote breeding, but not overbreeding)

your horse gets 1 cp for every complete generation in its pedigree.
Only HArpg horses count for pedigree points!
Your horse can get maximum of 3 cp for its pedigree (FB Bonus not included)
A starter gets 0 cp! (A horse with a created pedigree of real horses is considered a starter!)

Finest Blood Bonus: Every Finest Blood horse in the foals Pedigree adds 0,5 CP to the foals CP Account. Your horse can get maximum of 2 CP for the Finest Blood Bonus


II. Credit Points for offspring

For every WARMBLOOD foal your horse gets 0,5 cp.

For example if your horse has 4 warmblood foals, it will get 2 cp ( 4 x 0.5 cp).
Foals with drafts, ponies, gaited horses etc won't count for the credit point system.

If your horse is a Finest Blood Horse and the foal is out of/ sired by another Finest Blood Horse both parents will get 0,5 CP extra for this foal.
Finest Blood Sire X Finest Blood Dam ==> Both FB horses will get 0,5 CP for the foal + 0,5 CP Finest Blood Foal Bonus = 1 CP for a Finest X Finest Foal

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ATTENTION: We set up a maximum amount of CP that can be achieved through breeding.
You can get MAXIMUM of 3 CP for breeding foals (= 6 warmblood foals)
ATTENTON: Foal CP will only count for the sum score if your horse proved its quality in an event. THAT MEANS: your horse will only get the foal CP if it has entered and placed (1st,2nd,3rd) in at least one HArpg event (Dressage, Show Jumping or Eventing)!

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Example: horse Mary Sue has 3 Warmblood foals (theoretically 1,5 CP) AND placed 3rd in a show jumping event ==> MAry Sue gets 1,5 CP
horse Peter Paul has 6 Warmblood foals (theoretically 3 CP) but has not yet entered in a show jumping event ==> Peter Paul gets NO CP for his foals (if he enters in an event like 2 Months later, his foal CP will be added to his sum score!)


III. Credit Points for Events :new: MINI EVENTS

For a Mini Event (headshot) your horse will get 0,5CP + additional 0,5 if it places 1st, 2nd or 3rd
For a Mini Event (full body, no background, lineart, sketchy) your horse will get 1 CP + additional 0,5 CP if it places 1st, 2nd or 3rd
For a mini Event (usual event quality full body, colored, shaded, background) your horse will get 1,5 CP + 0,5 CP if it places 1st, 2nd or 3rd

For every HArpg Event your horse enters it will get 1,5 cp.
(only counts in combination with an event picture)

For every 1st, 2nd or 3rd place your horse wins in a HArpg Event it will get additional 0,5 cp.
(only counts in combination with an event picture)
:new: ATTENTION EX RACING THOROUGHBRED OWNERS
A TB can only be accepted as a Finest Blood if he is RETRAINED after his racing career (so you need ONE TRAINING PICTURE) AND he needs to compete in the disciple he is trained for (so you need a COMPETITION PICTURE) ==> YOU NEED BOTH!!! TRAINING AND NEW COMPETITION PICTURE


IV. Credit Points for Pictures

For every full body picture besides reference, breeding pictures and event entries your horse will get 1 cp.
:new: breeding pictures, reference picture 0 CP
:new: HEADSHOTS count for 0,5CP
:new: Training pictures drawn by others count 0,5 CP
The following pictures count as a "training picture":
- full body (= at least 1/2 of the horse is visible) colored pictures of the horse with rider in show jumping, dressage or cross country movements
- full body (= at least 1/2 of the horse is visible) colored pictures of the horse with trainer/handler shown in training situations (trailer training, lunging, groundwork...)
The following pictures don't count:
Head shots
Gift art and competition prizes
Linearts


V. Credit Points for HEWA events.

For winning HEWA events and performance tests your horse will get credit points.
We will announce the amount of points given for an event, once the events start.


VI. Selling Horses: Transferability of Credit Points.

If you are selling your horse, these CP will be FULLY transferred: Pedigree, Foal Points
The following CP will be cut half ( CP/2 ) : pictures, events






ONCE AGAIN: the credit point system with an example

Example

Horse: Eddie

Eddie's Pedigree
Sire: John . Dam: Sue ( Sue is Finest Blood)
= complete generation (parents) 1 cp

Sire's sire: Bob . Sire's Dam: Daisy  
Dam's sire: Tom (Tom is Finest Blood) . Dam's dam: Mary
= complete generation (grandparents) 1 cp

= PLUS 2 x 0,5 CP = 1 CP for Finest Blood horses in the pedigree!
== 3 cp


==>2 cp for Pedigree


Eddie's offspring
Linda (warmblood x warmblood) == warmblood foal 0,5 cp
Timothy (warmblood x pony breed) == 0 cp
Duncan (warmblood x thoroughbred) warmblood foal 0,5 cp
Lissy (Warmblood X gaited) == 0 cp
Tobey (Warmblood x draft) == 0 cp

==>1 cp for warmblood foals since he has placed in XYZ event ==> 1 CP count


Eddie's Show Events:
EDS event (12th place) == HArpg event picture 1,5 cp
DLS event (5th place) == HArpg event picture 1,5 cp
XYZ event (1st place) == HArpg event picture + placed == 2 cp
:new: SME Mini Show (1st place/ headshot) == 0,5 CP + placed == 1 CP
:new: SOE Mini Show (sketchy/unshaded, full body) == 1 CP + placed == 1,5 CP
:new: SAE Mini Show (full body, background, shaded) == 1,5 CP + placed == 2 CP

==>9,5 cp for event entries


Eddie's Pictures (besides event pictures, breeding pictures or reference):
grazing on the pasture == 1 cp
training in the riding hall == 1 cp

==>2 cp for additional pictures


== SUM SCORE
3cp + 1cp + 9,5cp + 2cp == 15,5 cp
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:iconkonakinz:
KonaKinz Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
How much does a self drawn Training image count for?
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Ememir Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
What does this event fav.me/d68e9bj counts as?
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whenwolveshowl Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
i have dutch warmbloods a lot of them (HARPG) and would like to get them approved so that they can get somewhere
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life-d-sign Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013
You should check out the KWPN Registry then :iconkwpn:
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:iconwhenwolveshowl:
whenwolveshowl Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
made my own
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:iconlife-d-sign:
life-d-sign Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2013
Cool thing :D
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HaflingerLady Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013
How I have to count a Thoroughbred x Thoroughbred foal, or do it don't count like a breeding with a pony?
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life-d-sign Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013
A racing TB foal counts 0, a sport TB counts as a Warmblood
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HaflingerLady Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013
Ok thank you.
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SpringHillFarm Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I have two questions.

1. Do inspections images count as separate show images, or do they count as other images? (i.e. an extra 1.5 cp or 1 cp)

2. If the previous owner did not count credit points and did not register the horse with H-E-W-A, do the credit points for their images get cut in half? Or are they counted as pictures by others? I'm very confused by that.
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life-d-sign Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013
Hi there

1. The inspection image is counted as "other images" (1 CP)

2. Regardless if the previous owner registered the horse or not, the CP from the owners old images are cut in half. Pictures by others are pictures that you commissioned (or the previous owner) to get more CP. We do not want to promote that like other associations do, because we rather see that your horse is active in your stable and that you progress with your horse.
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SpringHillFarm Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Alright, I got it! Just to make sure I do, a picture by the previous owner would count for .25 credit points? Obviously I'm a bit new to this system
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life-d-sign Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013
just count all cp it would get up and cut it in half. :D but yes a mini show or a headshot by the previous owner could be 0.25 CP :D
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SpringHillFarm Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh, so a full-body show image would be .75 cp and a full body training image would be .5 cp? Eventually I'll understand this :XD:
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feverpaint Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Hey I have yet another question: Do competition entries have to be for an actual show? Cause I know the HARPG is all about creating your own "world" and if you would want to enter a show but you don't like any of them that are running or there are no running would it be possible to just make a competition entry and say it's for a made up show and still get credit for it? Obviously there would be no prices cause then one would be able to give themselves the 1st place. I think this would be perfectly fine, but I thought I'd have to check with you guys to check if the points would count.
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life-d-sign Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2012
Sorry to disappoint you again, but for the show pictures only harpg shows count. The point of them is to encourage people to participate in events and host them. I understand your point, slow paced stables like yours (and mine too) have no chances to win in the current bigger competition, see Olympics) because mass counts often before class. I am truely sorry, but I can't start making exceptions only because you are technically better than most others. Same applies to people like Escykane and we do not make exceptions for her either.
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feverpaint Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Okay, well thanks for the reply!
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:iconlife-d-sign:
life-d-sign Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2012
sorry hun
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:iconfeverpaint:
feverpaint Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2012  Student Digital Artist
that's alright!
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feverpaint Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2012  Student Digital Artist
For mini shows how much would an image like this: [link] count for? Cause it is shaded and fullbody but without background? :)
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life-d-sign Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2012
What would you say about it? Is it an exeptional entry for you?
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feverpaint Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2012  Student Digital Artist
No not if I was comparing it to my other competition entries since it's a bit sketchy. But I think that my picture is somewhat between the two categories, cause it is shaded and sure it's sketchy but there's quite a lot of detail. Ofcourse I'd prefer being in the third category but I know that might be unfair because the image lacks background and is not as refined as my other competition entries. I just wanted to know if you meant exceptional compared to other mini event entries or compared to "normal" shows :)
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life-d-sign Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2012
Exeptional means that the mini event picture is on the level of your usual event entries. I see that this is far better than most actual event pictures are, but on the other hand you are an incredibly experienced artist so it is not fair to judge it in comparison to others, but to your own work. That's why I am asking, because I really do not know. :D
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feverpaint Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Okay! Thanks for letting me know, I think I was more confused of wether exceptional meant exceptional compared to a "standard" mini-event image or if it meant like a normal one. But now I know which is great, thanks! :D
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NikkiiQ Featured By Owner May 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Can I use a variation of this Credit point system for my breed #Sable-Horses? Like other amounts e.g.?
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kat8674 Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2012  Hobbyist
If your horse is leased by someone else for a show, would that count toward your point total? It only mentions training pictures not show entry pictures drawn by others.
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EquineRibbon Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I've collabed with another deviant and we've created a training picture; would that still count as 1cp or 0.5cp? ^^
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WoozleT Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2012
I like that you guys still accept 'great' mini show entries (full body, etc) as a 'regular' show entry, that makes it worth it to put in that extra work, or enter a mini show... I don't really like them BECAUSE the entries tend to be so much lower in quality and entries aren't judged the same... :(

Thanks for making it worth it again!
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kittykatscout Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
does HWSA count as Finest Blood cp in generation?
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life-d-sign Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2012
They do
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kittykatscout Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If a horse were to be a HWSA and HEWA Finest, would the foal get two individual +.5 for finest blood, or just one half?
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Desert-Rose-Ranch Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2011
Just want to make sure. So from now on Head shots are 0.5CP or are they worth nothing now?? :?
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Arabian08 Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2011  Student General Artist
Ok I have a Polish Warmblood crossed with a Swedish Warmblood (RDS Moonstein is he a finest?) would my mare still be able to register in this or no
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EscyKane Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2011  Student General Artist
it would be registerable as both, swedish and polish WB, as long the color is accepted by the breed associations.
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Arabian08 Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2011  Student General Artist
Ok :)
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Dakaree Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thought I'd let you know you have an hiccup in this blog :P You have raised the CP bar to 11 points right...? Cause towards the end it says...

'The credit Point System

Your horse gets credit points for certain aspects. To make it to the "Finest Blood Registry" it has to reach at least 9 credit points.'

Just thought I'd let you know as I was rather confused ^^'
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EscyKane Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2011  Student General Artist
thanks, I've changed it. Yes, it's 11 CP
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Dakaree Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Cool :) Np
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Jessa-bee Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2011  Student General Artist
ave
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Minnie1994 Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2011
wow, heisst das jetzt alle Bilder mir einer Referenz geben KEINE Punkte mehr o.O
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EscyKane Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2011  Student General Artist
Wie???? OO

Meinst du mit Referenzfoto gezeichnet oder Referenz-Bilder vom Pferd (also das Character Sheet)?
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Minnie1994 Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2011
ich meine, wenn man eine referenz nutzt fotovorlagen oder soo.....
(:
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EscyKane Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2011  Student General Artist
Wo steht denn sowas? Oo

Fotovorlagen sind natürlich erlaubt! Ich verwende auch Fotovorlagen!
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Minnie1994 Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2011
das hab ich gehört, von ich weiß nicht mehr wem....

Ich dachte schon, ich kann mir das Finest Blood abschminken^^
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DarkAngelLoveNight Featured By Owner May 20, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Question about foal CP.
If I understand right, the horse I want to register must be at least 3nd in some contest and only then his/her foals will be counted?
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EscyKane Featured By Owner May 29, 2011  Student General Artist
Yes. Sorry :( We just want to make sure the horses used for breedings are high quality. Some of my own horses didn't reach this border.
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DarkAngelLoveNight Featured By Owner May 30, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No problem, it's understable ^^
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turquoise-skies Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2011  Student General Artist
do multiple entries to the same show count? so if i enter 3 times to the same show, will i get 4.5 points for my horse?
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EscyKane Featured By Owner May 29, 2011  Student General Artist
if it's three separate pictures (like a three day event - dressage pic, show jumping pic, cross pic), then yes, 3x 1,5 CP. If you only do sort of a collage (with less detailed picture parts, so the effort is like one normal entry) then it's only 1,5 CP.
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tallyyy Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2011  Student Photographer
think i finally get how to do this ^^ will try soon :D
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